Former News of the World editor Rebekah Brooks had an affair with former News of the World editor Andy Coulsonboth of whom are pasty, married to other people, and currently on trial for. My mum, who has had a lot of difficulty in her life, is an amazing woman and shes incredibly resilient. Coulson was the editor of the News of the World from 2003 until his resignation in 2007, following the conviction of one of the newspaper's reporters in relation to illegal phone-hacking. It was an amazing place to be and it was fascinating and rewarding and I was reasonably good it and I loved my colleagues. Andy: Dangers of drug smuggling and all manner of other suggested uses for books. If thats how he feels, thats how he feels. The Guardian said that the disclosure "is understood to have 'absolutely shocked' some Whitehall information staff. His brother and co-founder John Collison scored the highest-ever score received by a student for the Irish Leaving Certificate. And there were some jet streams in the sky, without getting too poetic about it. In the second extract from his new book Hack Attack, Nick Davies. Jane: Hard not to be, though, I would have thought. [15] Other defendants were cleared. Entirely self-inflicted, entirely my fault. He attended high school in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, where his father was a professor at nearby Duke University. Andy: Better than the alternative. [4][5] The overall impact from his tenure came to be known as the "Coulson effect". Jane: I wanted to point out before we really get started that its not really an interview about why you ended up in prison, because obviously the details of the trial can be Googled. Because his family relocated frequently, he had lived in seven cities by the time he was 17. And, of course, we became friends because we worked together a long time and David and his family went through, as everyone remembers, some truly appalling times during the period. Early life. I do believe its a muscle and my muscle was very well exercised by the time I found myself dealing with my own. On 21 November 2014, Coulson was released from prison having served less than five months of his 18-month prison sentence. So, youve got inmates there who have been in prison for a very long time. He hired Dominic Mohan, who was later promoted to editor. Jane: OK, and finally you asked this of all your guests, the three crisis cures, if you like, and you know the rules; it cant be a person. Jane: Do I get one of those for doing this? So, I got a lot of that. [59] In June 2014, Coulson was found guilty of one charge of conspiracy to intercept voicemails and he was sentenced to 18 months in prison on 4 July 2014. [51] He was questioned under caution, and later that day released on police bail until October, but made no comment on his release. [27], After David Cameron became Prime Minister in May 2010, he appointed Coulson as Director of Communications for the government at 10 Downing Street. I thought I was due what everyone was due in that kind of situation. Andy talks about confronting his mistakes and the . Jane: So, there came a point where you thought, OK, I dont know how long Im going to be here. And the only way to deal with it was to take one at a time and that is another common theme that has been coming out in these podcasts, that when you are in crisis, dont try and take control of everything. And there was a bit of joshing as well, particularly with prison officers when I would kind of complain about the process or I would ask the question, Why am I still here when I think I should have been categorised by now? and Id get a wry look that says, Well Tory cuts, Andy.' Private investigator Glenn Mulcaire, remunerated by the newspaper, was given a custodial sentence of six months. Funny, at least for the first 10 times. And I could equally say, why on Earth did you do that, Andy? There were a lot of agendas being played. [8] He was detained and charged with perjury by Strathclyde Police on 30 May 2012 in relation to evidence he had given in the trial of Scottish politician Tommy Sheridan in 2010, and cleared on 3 June 2015. But I never, at any point, felt that I was being treated worse than anyone else. When I was in the midst of all this I was encouraged by Eloise and friends to go and talk to someone and I did that. During that time Andy faced three criminal trials. And I just thought to myself, how the hell did I end up here? Diary Londoner's Diary: Truth surfaces about Damien's undersea world. I was an editor of the News of the World for four years. Andy: It was boiling hot and it was a glorious summer, as I said. Andy: On the morning that I knew I was going to prison, I went to the back of my garden (I live out in the country), I went over the fence and into a field and then eventually I arranged for a local cab. That never happened to me. Id start with that, I think. Jane: I mean, two of those jobs there that you mentioned, the powerful jobs, obviously they do bring their own sort of sets of criticism with them. I was encouraged to stay but I just felt from a practical point of view, because I am of course a resigning recidivist, much in the same way as I felt when I was at the News of the World, how on Earth am I able to sit here and write a leader, criticising that outrage thing again, criticising a politician when Ive got a reporter sat in jail? A bemused local cabbie found himself sitting in the middle of a cornfield and off we went to the station. And its going to be Groundhog Day and actually the consequences of that trial could be even worse in Scotland and then a whole load of politics attached to that and theres a whole load of new agendas. Former News of the World editor Andy Coulson's 'mobile phone was hacked by his own newspaper's private detective' Coulson, 45, 'fully in the know' about illegal practice, prosecution has said. Prison is a, very obviously, stark place but it is also packed with emotion. We talk about it and funnily enough they, it would be wrong to say that they laugh about it, but they found some aspects of it quite fascinating. David Cameron appointed Coulson as communications director in 2007. I use a guy who lives up in Scotland, Ron, who is just outstanding and I still talk to him from time to time now. Normally youre packing to go on holiday, but youre packing to go to prison. Do you feel the need to sometimes wear that like a badge, to own it in certain situations? For me and for Eloise, ask us honestly, was this the worst thing that ever happened to us? The paper was told to pay Driscoll 800,000. It was the wrong decision and I am very clear about that." But that didnt happen and we stayed together and yes, the simple answer to that question, are we stronger as a result? Andy: No, as I say, only during the course of a very long trial in the Old Bailey where I answered every question, I gave full evidence and answered every question that was asked of me by a fair number of lawyers and a judge. The judge hearing Coulson's trial was critical of the prime minister, pondering whether the intervention was out of ignorance or deliberate, and demanded an explanation. Certainly, my upbringing. The judge added that it was for him, and not the jury, to decide on this aspect of the case and that the Crown's legal submissions had failed to satisfy him that Coulson's evidence had been sufficiently relevant to the Sheridan trial. And Ive got to be honest with you, it was actually really interesting and quite rewarding work. It is a fact of my life and it is an upsetting fact of my life. So, Harvey, Monty, Finn. The judge actually criticised the timing of the statement and said he was unsure whether it was out of ignorance or deliberate. [25], Coulson became the Conservative Party's director of communications on 9 July 2007. When did you last speak to him? In 1994, he briefly moved to the Daily Mail, but after nine weeks moved back to The Sun to edit Bizarre. In January, a former News of the World journalist told the trial that his phone hacking skills were the main reason Coulson had hired him. Coulson, 46, who also worked as director of . Take control of what you actually have control over and, of course, the main thing that you have control over is your own mind-set and your own attitude. When you resigned, did you feel the sense of the crisis that was about to come your way at that point? Andy: Probably a bit of both. Andy: Well, just the checking-in process because Id obviously tried to do some research beforehand. And my parents are grafters, that was always very clear. Andy: Well I think for most people, not all actually, but most people who go to prison it's the kind of beginning of the end because yes youre in a van, yes youre going to Belmarsh, but you know now you are on the road, actually, to the end. I often read people saying that it doesnt really matter. Showing Editorial results for andy coulson. Its not on my record. Suddenly youre on trial at the Old Bailey and youre hearing the word guilty; tell us about that moment. Journalist and political strategist, Andy Coulson was editor of the News of the World from 2003 until his resignation in 2007, following the conviction of one of the newspaper's reporters in relation to illegal phone-hacking. They take your clothes when you go to prison, which I think is sensible. So thats why were doing this. Never mind my resilience and my crisis, the truth of the matter is it was as much a crisis for them and for Ellie as it was for me. And no one can give you that answer in advance. Coulson, who now runs a successful strategy business, talks candidly and honestly about his regrets, resilience and recovery. And although I stand by the position I took in court, in regard to the allegations that I ended up being found guilty of, my view is still that I didnt break the law. I think that the danger with this conversation, if Im brutally honest with you, as we sit here right at the start of it, is that it somehow comes off as woe is me. If you have a life sentence, if youve murdered someone, you will finish your sentence in a prison like Hollesley Bay. A thoroughly depressing experience, with barbed wire around you and over you, actually, to stop helicopters coming in. Where did the resilience come from, do you think, to deal with that? And that just didnt happen. Jane: And they take all of your clothes away, I assume? Andy: No, I prefer not to, really. So I changed my mind. And there are blokes there, for a whole range of reasons, who are trying to make sense of their lives again and who are disconnected from their families. Learn How rich is He in this year and how He spends money? And I was able, very quickly totally different approach, totally different kind of attitude, the governor there, his view was, weve got you for a while and were going to make the most of it. Jane: So, youre packing your bag. Its a wine called Chateau Musar and its from the Lebanon and I chose it because it is really tasty and also because it is liquid proof that there is good to come from crisis, given where this wine is made. Former News of the World editors Rebekah Brooks and Andy Coulson were having an affair for at least six years from the late 1990s, the phone-hacking trial has heard. And suddenly youre sat in one of them. And so did that help in a way? I think there are people who probably think that the door should have been locked forever. Find Andy Coulson's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading online directory for contact information. [1] They have three children. [6][7], Coulson was arrested by the Metropolitan Police Service on 8 July 2011 in connection with allegations of corruption and phone hacking. I was an ex-Murdoch employee in government and a lot of people really didnt like that and saw a lot of conspiracies within that, that I was some kind of stooge, which I absolutely was not. So, wed had lots of conversations but then, yes, we had to have a conversation about what it meant. Its that judgement thing again, you know. And I managed to get there. In 2005 at the age of 16, Patrick Collison was the recipient of the 41 st Young Scientist of the Year for his work with Lisp. Andy: Absolutely, yeah. Coulson replaced Rebekah Wade as editor in 2003. 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